Another day, another case of DC fans complaining about the many opportunities missed to capitalize on what Zack Snyder had previously set up in the DCEU.
The Flash owes pretty much all of its success to the Michael Keaton cameo, his presence in the trailers gave enough nostalgia to get fans to buy tickets and actually go to the theater. Not many fans, but still a lot more than would have gone had Keaton not been in the movie. But could The Flash have used the concept of the multiverse to give us a more interesting and satisfying story, instead of just using nostalgia as a crutch?
A Fan in the DC Cinematic subreddit asked fellow DC diehards whether they thought The Flash could have been a better movie had it done away with Keaton and went with a storyline that was closer to the original Flashpoint comics.
The original storyline saw Thomas Wayne taking on the role of Batman and Martha Wayne becoming the Joker. In this universe, Bruce Wayne was the one who was killed by the mugger in the alley resulting in his parents taking vastly different paths in life. It follows that Snyder may have been planning for such a storyline in the DCEU considering the fact that he cast such big names for relatively small roles. Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Lauren Cohan are both well-known actors who could have easily taken bigger roles within the universe.
I’m sure that was the original plan since they introduced such significant actors in the roles.
Many fans agreed that they would have loved to have seen the payoff for these two characters who barely got a chance on screen.
Yes. Like why set that up and not pay it off? The Flash felt like a closing chapter to the DCEU. And I guess Aquaman is going to be the epilogue. But if they knew that ahead of time they could have done it.
Of course, with all the changes going on at Warner Bros. and multiple spectacular flops at the box office, the DCEU was shifted and some would say mangled so many times that it barely resembled the original vision. Many comments in the subreddit expressed their anger at WB for messing with the original vision too much.
the DCEU seemed to be consistently trying to do what Marvel was doing and rewriting scripts to do it, so it’s likely they found out that Marvel’s multiverse movies would be bringing back Patrick Stewart, Toby, Andrew, and wanted to do something to bring back an older actor for the nostalgia factor too at the box office.
In the end, producers decided to take the easy route and bank on that nostalgia rather than take a risk on a storyline that general audiences may not be familiar with. It was cool to see Keaton back as the Dark Knight, but it might have been a lot cooler to see Morgan and Cohan’s takes on Batman and the Joker.
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Star Wars fans have rallied around Mark Hamill as he mourned the loss of Jamie Christopher, Assistant Director for Star Wars: The Last Jedi.
The legendary actor took to Twitter to pay tribute to the prodigious 52-year-old.
Very sad to hear of the passing of Jamie Christopher. Aside from being one of the best ADs I've ever worked with, I'll always remember how his deadpan humor kept us all amused & motivated to give our absolute best. #GoneTooSoonhttps://t.co/SIUf4EsAAC
Christopher enjoyed a stellar career shaping narratives that entertained millions of moviegoers. Per Variety, he received his first credit working with David Fincher as the Third AD on Alien 3 in 1999. He graduated to Second AD with Luc Besson’s The Fifth Element in 1997 and Stephen Sommers’ The Mummy in 1999.
In 2001, Christopher became the first AD of the second unit for Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone. As the franchise developed around the J.K. Rowling novels, he continued in this role and became the First Assistant Director for Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince.
In addition to the Star Wars franchise, Christopher had a thriving decade-long career in the MCU, where his work included Thor: The Dark World,Avengers: Age of Ultron, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Black Widow. He was also an Executive Producer on Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness and the soon-to-be-released Fantastic Four.
Fans joined Hamill in recognizing Christopher’s work and offered warm words of support.
My condolences. I know how hard ADs work. Been on many film sets in the past.
Jamie Christopher’s work has helped capture the hearts and minds of movie fans in some of the biggest film franchises in the industry. The example he set is a testament to the enduring values of excellence, creativity, and dedication. His passing marks the end of life that was short yet unwaveringly massive.
Christopher’s wife, Carly, and their four children survive him. The cause of death remains undisclosed.
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With actors still out on strike, one daring bird decided to crash one of the biggest film festivals of the year to give photographers something to snap. A pigeon has become an unexpected star at the Venice Film Festival, as it landed on the opening red carpet and started to strut its stuff.
The festival will be seeing a huge drop off in A-list stars this year given the current situation in Hollywood, and though there were some celebs to pap, the star of the show was this pigeon who boldly took to the carpet like a pro. The image has been shared all over social media platforms like Twitter, with many praising the photographer who paid the bird its well-deserved attention.
everyone is calling the pigeon on the venice film festival red carpet a scab, which is totally fair, but also my great joy in life is when pigeons walk around on something that makes them seem human. like when they cross the street at the crosswalk
Whether or not any actors could attend the festival this year given the current SAG-AFTRA strike, which prohibits them from promoting any work done with studios under the AMPTP, was in question when the strike was initially announced. The festival, celebrating its 80th year, will see certain stars walk the red carpet, but only those who have worked on indie projects that have been in no way related to the AMPTP. Adam Driver, George Clooney, and more A-listers will be in attendance having been granted an interim waiver from SAG-AFTRA which allows them to market their indie projects, but others will unfortunately have to stay away.
Zendaya’s latest, Challengers, was meant to serve as the opening movie though the actress will now have to steer well clear of the event. Similarly, other Hollywood-produced movies such as Poor Things starring Emma Stone and Maestro starring Bradley Cooper will also have to go ahead without their leading actors in attendance. The festival director, Alberto Barbera, was ready to rethink the entire festival this year, telling Variety, “I had closed the lineup, so you can imagine with what spirit I faced the following week. I was ready to throw it all up in the air and rethink everything!”
Luckily, the SAG-AFTRA granted special dispensation to independent films not produced under the AMPTP, such as Driver’s film Ferrari in which he plays the titular character, Enzo Ferrari. Along with Ferrari, the festival will also feature director Ava DuVernay’s Origin as well as Sofia Coppola’s Priscilla. Despite not having their leading actors in attendance, some major companies, such as Netflix, will still be launching their films at the event, so it isn’t a total loss.
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It was love at first sight when Oppenheimer premiered in Chinese cinemas, earning a commanding $5.4 million at the box office on its opening day.
Ticket sales for Nolan’s magnum opus are on par with Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania, while Oppenheimer also enjoyed a robust $300 000 turnout from Chinese moviegoers for the film’s midnight screenings, reviving a timeslot that has struggled in the aftermath of the pandemic.
The secret of Oppenheimer’s success in China is a longstanding appreciation for Nolan’s narratives. Inception, The Dark Knight Rises, and Tenet have been box office hits in the East Asian nation, a highly profitable market with a population of 1.4 billion.
Furthermore, Nolan traveled to China to promote the film. He visited Beijing and Shanghai, where he cleverly enticed moviegoers and the media with previews and personal interactions. By the time Oppenheimer premiered in China, its audience was ready, waiting, and well-acquainted with the biopic’s subject matter due to Nolan’s shrewd diplomacy.
Oppenheimer is already one of the most successful Nolan features ever, and it’s projected to rake in a total of $43 million from Chinese ticket sales. The cumulative effect of the filmmaker’s passion for the project and his campaign to connect audiences with it is that the movie is on the cusp of $800 million at the global box office and the coveted $1 billion box office milestone is moving closer into view.
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When you hear the word “Salem” attached to a horror movie, your mind instantly creates a picture of what to expect. Fortunately, that’s precisely what co-writers and directors Ari Costa and Eren Celeboglu want you to think when it comes to All Fun and Games.
The longtime collaborators have made the leap to feature filmmaking in their full-length debut executive produced by Joe and Anthony Russo of Avengers: Endgame fame, putting a subversive spin on one of the most infamous cities on the planet.
A group of teenagers – featuring The Haunting of Bly Manor‘s Benjamin Ainsworth, Sex Education‘s Asa Butterfield, and Stranger Things‘ Natalia Dyer – discover a centuries-old knife that inflicts a terrible curse upon them, forcing the terrified group to play murderous versions of children’s games where there’s only one way to secure victory, and it’s not one that anybody wants to achieve.
Ahead of All Fun and Games arriving in select theaters and VOD tomorrow, We Got This Covered had the chance to speak to Costa and Celeboglu about their movie. During our chat, we cover the challenges in bringing their longtime creative partnership to the feature arena, the inspirations behind the film, how too successfully navigate the predictability of horror, their dream projects and much more, which you can check out below.
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Having wrapped shooting all the way back in the spring of last year, how does it feel knowing your feature-length directorial debut is just days away from release?
Ari Costa: It’s both exciting and incredibly terrifying.
Eren Celeboglu: Yes, I would echo that same sentiment exactly.
Ari Costa: It’s like, “Okay, we’re gonna let our baby walk into this world.” And we hope that people don’t tell us it’s ugly! I mean, it’s extremely rewarding, we put we put a lot of a lot of work into this film, we’ve been working on it with AGBO for for many years, and we develop the script with them. And then we brought it out to Anton, and John Zois over at Anton, and we developed it a little bit more with him.
Anton ended up financing it and then obviously, the process of casting the movie and then shooting the movie and then editing, it was a longer editorial process than we would have expected for a film of this size. But I mean, incredible learning experience. And, it’s sort of, to put it bluntly, it’s the dream of two young horror fans. It’s the lifelong dream. So it’s really amazing to be to be bringing this film into the world.
You guys have been working together across various mediums for a decade now, but did it alter your process or dynamic at all making the jump to feature-length storytelling? Or was it a natural progression that came fairly easily given your working relationship and presumably the near-telepathic shorthand you’ve developed by now?
Eren Celeboglu: Yeah, I mean, I think it made it completely easier. And I don’t think we would have been able to do it, particularly with the budget and the limitations of time that we had, had we not, you know, we started out as writers, sort of for the first five years together, writing together just pilots and scripts.
And then we basically decided, “Okay, we need to direct,” we need to learn what it is to direct together, to be on the floor together. And then we spent the next five years making shorts, The Bride and The Internet Kills, which are two shorts that kind of got us this gig, ultimately, when the Russos saw it. And before we did this movie, we had to be approved by the DGA as a team.
You sort of get married, and you get on this zoom with everybody from Seth Rogen to Kimberly Peirce, to, you know, everybody, as directors. And what we found out was, a lot of these teams that come to be approved have never directed together. They want to direct together, right? Because they’re going to do a feature. And so Ari and I really had, we felt, “Oh my god, wow, we’ve really spent our time in the trenches together when no one’s watching to make mistakes and figure out our process.”
And so that was, I just don’t think we would have been able to work at the pace that was required and still have a great time, because we did have a great experience on this film, had we not put in those 10,000 hours prior.
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The running time is a breezy 76 minutes, which is very short even by horror’s standards. Were you always planning on having it come in so quickly so it was all killer and no filler, or did it turn out shorter than expected in the edit when you began honing in on what you determined to be the best possible version of what you’d shot?
Ari Costa: I mean, I think that just that truly comes down to the collaboration. Ultimately, our director’s cut was probably a little closer to 88/89 minutes, more standard in horror fare. Part of it was we knew in 20 days, trying to achieve some special effects and a small amount of stunts as well that that the scripting would need to be like 88. I think the script was actually 88 pages.
So we expected the runtime to be around then. And then ultimately collaborating with with our producers, they thought that the roller coaster ride of the movie was ultimately more valuable for the demographic that we were targeting. But you know, I think Erin and I’s preference would have been to have a little more character in the film, I mean, we are happy with where it is and how fast the ride is.
And we feel like it’s a full movie, we don’t feel like we’re cheating the audience out of anything, except just slightly more character and their relationships. I think the first act was a little longer in our director’s cut. I think one thing we’d like to hopefully earn in the future is, you know, the opportunity to be a little more patient would be nice.
Eren Celeboglu: We’re still very proud of the movie, particularly the characters and the performances, because for us, like the way we really approached this was this sort of smuggling a family coming-of-age drama, into sort of a possession and slasher movie.
We wanted to really start you with the family and the references that we went to when we were first writing the script were things like Lady Bird and E.T. and Mid90s, and Eighth Grade, because for us, that was the most appealing part really was the family and the heart of the of the piece, and we love scaring people, and scaring ourselves. But that was really what drew us to it. So I think that was something that, I think that’s something that we would always want to increase for us, would be character as much character as possible.
There’s a subversive element in play from the start, because even when you hear the word “Salem” there are obvious connotations that brings, so was it always a key part of your approach as writers and filmmakers to ensure that as much as All Fun and Games leans into certain tropes audiences might be expecting, it makes a point of deliberately not going all the way and embracing them completely?
Eren Celeboglu: Well, thanks, that’s really interesting. I mean, I think what’s really interesting – because I brought this up in another previous interview that we were talking to someone – is that we always had the backstory of this sort of child of a witch, and then just using that in terms of like generational trauma and abuse, but it was much more of a secret underneath.
I mean, you found out sort of maybe at the end, but it was really Joe Russo who said, “No, no, no, let’s bring the specificity of your backstory up.” Because, and to your point, it isn’t witches around being burned at the stake, and the normal kind of stuff. It’s much more about the social persecution, it’s more, it’s more Scarlet Letter, and so I think that’s cool that you picked up on that.
But I think for us, it was, again, it was always about, “What’s a story that could have happened in Salem hundreds of years ago that could still happen today.” Right? You know, and that is sort of a little boy going through trauma that for us was that was the real link.
Ari Costa: The parallels of of Joe – play by Ben Ainsworth, who really comes of age during our horror movie – and then this character of Daniel back in the Salem Witch Trial days, who went through this traumatic experience, and it’s just like, they’re parallel journeys. We tried a lot, like, what we think maybe adds a little unique layer to it is by humanizing our antagonist. And at the end, ultimately, the audience should feel conflicted about – spoiler alert here – about what ultimately happens to the demon in our story.
Eren Celeboglu: And we love this notion that all the people accused in Salem were not actually witches, and this whole idea that, maybe, what if, in our alternate history, that’s what resulted in witches, you know? It was this persecution that made people go, “You know what, I’m gonna go learn some black magic so I cantake vengeance on these on these persecuting old men who’ve made it their job to persecute women.”
And in many instances, when we started researching it, we’re like, “Oh, wow, all the witches were single mothers and it’s so systemic that you can’t help but see the parallels, and that was something that we, it’s subtly in there, but it definitely jumped right out at us. So it’s really cool that you picked up on that.
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You’ve described it as “Amblin meets John Carpenter,” and as well as being a solid elevator pitch, it’s perfectly apt. All Fun and Games is either E.T. if the kids find a haunted knife instead of an alien, or Halloween with a ghost instead of Michael Myers, but did you ever have to rein in wearing those influences so proudly on the sleeve to ensure the film was still very much its own thing at the end of the day? Because it wouldn’t be unfair to say that sometimes, horror can fall into the trap of maybe being too reverential to its most obvious influences, which isn’t the case here.
Eren Celeboglu: Thanks. Thank you for saying that.
Ari Costa: Yeah, and I think that marriage creates a unique tone in itself. And I do think Erin and I, we describe this as a as a coming of age horror film. So we definitely want to take the heart of Amblin and the realistic family portrayal of a single mother. And we tried to both modernize our kids, but also give it a bit of a timeless feel in the way of It Follows. It’s like, you look that movie, and it’s hard to pinpoint exactly where it’s taking place, it’s almost its own unique world.
And we didn’t go to that extent necessarily, but we wanted the film and the characters to be completely accessible. And I think with the with the horror element, we wanted the threats to be real in the vein of like a Halloween. And we wanted there to be sort of real stakes. For sure. We’re hoping that the marriage of those two influences in tones provided something that was both a throwback film, throwback horror film, but also had its own unique thing going for it.
Eren Celeboglu: And I also think to Ari’s point, like what you were saying about being too reverential, which is totally true. I think what we really were trying to say with that Amblin meets John Carpenter’s is, “Okay, let’s just create a construct,” wherein you can say, “Okay, if this is what we’re dealing with, this might be possible.” Which is, “Okay, how do we subvert certain things?” which is that you think Jo is going to be the one who’s possessed, hopefully, and become the little demonic kid, and then you throw it to Marcus as he becomes the unstoppable kind of killing machine.
And so, again, playing with just what could happen within this world. It’s like, “How do you you that?” So then the references sort of fall away. And it’s more about what’s happening in relation to the story, and what we’re filming on the day, you know what I mean, as opposed to like, “Oh, we have to do this thing.” It was more like we’re finding our way in and, “Oh, well, we could go this way or that way.” I think the movie tells you what it is, in the end. I think that’s what we found.
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If you could make any project of your choosing without restrictions – as in, it can be whatever you want made however you want for however much you want it to cost – what would it be and why would it be that?
Ari Costa: I mean, a movie that already exists or movie a wholly of our own?
It can be either or, the possibilities are literally limitless.
Ari Costa: I think the movie we’re most passionate about is a film that at one point had Gael García Bernal attached to it, it is I think hugely representative of us as as writers and directors, which is we love a marriage of tone, and a marriage of genre. We like to almost juxtapose genres together, and this one is like a screwball comedy in the throwback vein of like a Preston Sturges or like the repartee of Hepburn and Grant, under the guise of horror.
So it’s a hugely unique story, but it also has a big musical component. And so we like to say tonally, it fits somewhere between a Coen brothers and a David Lynch. And it’s our true passion project. And I think there are various different ways it could be made, but it is like, a colorful fever dream fantasy.
Eren Celeboglu: And I think if we got to remake something, if we can remake something in sort of the Inglourious Basterds way, I think maybe something like The Great Silence, which is an incredible Spaghetti Western if you’ve never seen it. It’s got this wonderful character, Silence, whose neck is cut and can’t speak. And it’s just a great Sergio Corbucci Western, I think it would be a terrific remake for us to do if that if that was a non-original thing that we could do.
Ari Costa: Yeah, we do love Westerns. I mean, one of our first shorts we made together was called The Bride, and it is a Western horror film set in Iraq, basically. And it’s very cool.
Eren Celeboglu: Yeah, yeah. It’s like a Spaghetti Western with ghosts. You know that.
That’s all you need. How can anybody say no to that?
Eren Celeboglu: Yes, yes. The light is green!
All Fun and Games releases in select theaters and on VOD this Friday, Sept. 1.
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If you wanted to release a movie about AI taking over the world, there probably hasn’t been a better time than now. The rise of AI has been a trope in cinema for some time, but it hasn’t been as big a current issue in real life as it is today. Now, the director of The Creator is discussing how the release of his AI apocalypse film has proven so timely.
You may remember Gareth Edwards as the director of one of Star Wars’biggest critical film successes of the last decade, Rogue One. Now he is back in the sci-fi seat as he brings us The Creator, a story set in a future where AI has taken over. Though we may not yet have reached the stage where AI is ready to take over the world (we hope not at least) the battle against AI is already upon us in the form of the war being waged between creatives and studio executives.
Reported on Deadline, in a Q&A during a sold-out screening of his film in an IMAX, Edwards joked,
“I have a trick with A.I. is to get the timing as a sweet spot window where it’s before the apocalypse and not after, which I think it’s in November — maybe December — and so, I think we got really lucky,”
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He went on to talk about how he picked the date for his film’s story to take place, and how he thinks he may have chosen too far in the future given what is happening right now.
“The joke would be that when you write a film, especially a science fiction film, I try to avoid putting a date … at some point, you have to so, I picked 2070 Now I feel like an idiot because I should’ve gone for 2023 ’cause everything that’s been unfolding in the last few months is kind of scary and weird.”
What’s even funnier is that when Edwards pitched his story to studios they asked why a war between humans and AI was a good premise for the film, looking back today he can state, “The setup of that movie is pretty much the last few months.” If there is one thing he hopes for audiences to take away from the film, is not so much fear for AI and the future, but “Empathy for others. I think that’s a strong value that is very important.”
The Creator will be released in theatres on Sep. 29.
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Animation is an interesting art form. Though characters are often conceived at the very beginning, they don’t fully materialize until a voice actor is brought on, with the direction they take bringing a new dimension to it, and sometimes changing it all together, and Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse provides one such example.
Into the Spider-Verse introduced us to several Spider-People, but Across the Spider-Verse went above and beyond that. In one scene, we witness more than 600 variants, Spider-Men, women, horses… there were a lot. One of the last characters that was worked on was actually one of the standouts of the film, and that was Hobart “Hobie” Brown, also known as Spider-Punk.
As per Variety, production designer Patrick O’Keefe and head of character Alan Hawkins left Spider-Punk until last, but it wasn’t until they matched the actor to the character that magic really started to happen. Hawkin’s explained that in the creation phase there was a lot of testing, and they were “educational in that they didn’t work, and we learned about how not to do them.”
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Spider-Punk was even put on the shelf as they focused on others, as they just weren’t figuring out how to get him right. Kaluuya’s take on the character gave animators something fresh and new to work with, with Hawkins saying, “You’d think the punk character would be agitating, big and boisterous, but the more time we spent with him and saw reads from Daniel, we saw that wasn’t his vibe at all. He was cool and controlled.”
From this interpretation of the character came new ideas, such as slowing down the frame rate of the character, with different body parts even having different frame rates, his guitar being the slowest thing in the whole movie. They even made sure that the music was a huge part of the animation as well, as per O’Keefe.
“Music is everything. His sound waves become his power, so when he does a sonic boom, it blows everything apart — and we see that in his montage — it’s the emotional power of music. It’s such a different thing from the rest of the Spider-verse. It’s about being true to each character, and music is what he will use to set them free, it’s a form of expression.”
This cooler-than-ice character became one of the breakout favorites, with his delight in anarchy even driving the story forward, not bad for a character that was almost written out, eh? Sometimes, it just takes the right voice, the right take on a character to really bring things together, so thank god they brought Kaluuya on and we got the Spider-Punk we never knew we wanted.
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It’s all riding on The Marvels. Not only has the MCU had a rough year of it, after kicking off Phase Five with a flop threequel and a Disney Plus dud, Disney itself has always had a punishing 2023 thanks to a run of box office disappointments. Enter the aforementioned Brie Larson sequel, then, which the studio must be desperately hoping can recapture the success of its 2019 predecessor. Seeing as its haters do their best to drown out the truth, it always bears repeating: Captain Marvel earned $1 billion worldwide.
Nevertheless, it has to be said that a few The Marvels updates have got us worried. For once, director Nia DaCosta’s promise that it’s going to be “wacky and silly” is more of a threat to audiences who are still recovering from the sight of M.O.D.O.K.’s rear-end in Quantumania than she was probably intending. What’s more, according to the latest rumors, the film could end up being the shortest MCU movie of them all by quite some margin. As per alleged intel, The Marvels may clock in at just 1 hour and 38 minutes.
Seeing as the current record-holder is The Incredible Hulk with 1 hour and 52 minutes, that’s a severely shortened runtime by Marvel standards and much closer to something you’d expect from Pixar or Disney’s animated movies. On the face of it, then, this isn’t encouraging, as Marvel fans generally aren’t ones to complain when the MCU gets mammoth-sized — just look at how popular the bladder-busting Avengers: Endgame and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 are.
On the other hand, a slight runtime might be exactly what the doctor ordered. One of the biggest criticisms used in conjunction with the threat of superhero fatigue is the bloat that people feel has happened to the genre, with there just being too much Marvel and DC content around. But if DaCosta can hand it something that’s snappy and energetic with a sense of fun to it then it could easily be a big hit with audiences, earning the kind of positive word of mouth that results in a breakaway hit.
We know that Disney threw away a whopping total of $965 million on four projects that flopped hard — with Marvel’s Quantumania and Secret Invasion among them — so The Marvels repeating the performance of its precursor and bringing home $1 billion would be the perfect way to end 2023 on a redeeming note for the Mouse House.
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Can you believe that Marvel’s Fantastic Four reboot was announced back in 2019 and we’ve still yet to get any official casting announcements? Well, in the absence of any, professional fan casters have offered up an endless procession of their personal picks for the third cinematic iteration of the First Family. And one of these might’ve just lit the fire for Marvel Studios to poach one of the Most Valued Players from James Gunn‘s upcoming DCU.
Redditor u/MarvelsReporter took to the r/MCUTheories sub to share their preferred Fantastic Four lineup, which combined run-of-the-mill choices like John Krasinski and Vanessa Kirby as Reed and Sue with left-field picks like Harrison Osterfield as Johnny Storm and John Cena as Ben Grimm aka The Thing. And the latter in particular is the definition of a “just so crazy it could actually work” casting ploy.
The ensuing thread became full of those heartily agreeing that, after seeing him as Christopher Smith in The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker, Cena would actually be perfect as the Ever-Loving Thing.
Of course, with Gunn keen to usher in a new age of peace and prosperity between Marvel and DC, Cena could conceivably be part of both the MCU and the DCU. Especially if The Thing was a voice role for him, in the same way that Rocket Raccoon was for Bradley Cooper. Nevertheless, Marvel Studios doesn’t make its decision based on popular vote, so we’ll just have to wait for Kevin Feige to announce from on high who’s really going to star in Fantastic Four, currently scheduled for May 2, 2025.
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